Corona talk at “Markus Lanz”: Sahra Wagenknecht and Rostock’s Mayor Carl Ruhe Madsen vent their anger.
Hamburg – Left politician Sahra Wagenknecht initially reports on “Markus Lanz” about the mild course of her Covid 19 illness. It was nothing more than a slight cold, in all probability it was the Omicron variant. She hopes to have gained immunity through surviving the infection.
Sahra Wagenknecht on “Markus Lanz”: “You don’t vaccinate yourself in the dark”
Wagenknecht only thinks about vaccination if more dangerous mutations appear, and says: “You don’t just vaccinate yourself out of the blue.” In addition, the member of the Bundestag assumes that in two to three months in Germany such as in Denmark, there are no longer any corona protection measures in force. If an endemic situation is reached, Wagenknecht calls for an “end to the public pressure to justify” how individuals deal with Covid-19 diseases.
FDP politician Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann agrees with Wagenknecht that a relaxation in the intensive care units can be observed. The traffic light government is currently experiencing a difficult process of weighing up how to proceed. Strack-Zimmermann tries to make a comparison: “If you’ve had a car accident, you might have problems getting behind the wheel again.”
Corona debate at “Markus Lanz”: Rostock’s mayor complains about the German mindset
Rostock’s Mayor Claus Ruhe Madsen (independent), himself a Danish citizen, considers cultural differences between Scandinavia and Germany to be the main reason for the different pandemic strategies. While the Corona crisis is seen as a major challenge in the Scandinavian countries that society must face together, fear rules in Germany, says Madsen. “Obsessive anxiety” had recently been reprimanded by a doctor in the ARD talk “Maischberger”.
He also criticizes the poor communication, which unsettles people and destroys trust in politics, something due to the zigzag course in the event of a possible vaccination requirement. His conclusion: “We go through prohibitions instead of offers. And mentally they are really two different worlds.”
Madsen criticizes the German bureaucracy and its sluggish digitization and gives an example from practice: that people who got a driver’s license 30 years ago are now being brought into the administration* “to swap a piece of paper for a piece of plastic”, doesn’t want to get into the mayor’s head. Talkmaster Lanz and the politician Strack-Zimmermann smile a little at his statements, but Madsen is not irritated. He considers the current situation to be a missed opportunity: “I’ll bet with you, dear Mr. Lanz, in two years we’ll do it in an app. And I think we could have gone digital now.”
“Markus Lanz” – these were his guests on February 3:
- Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann (FDP) – politician
- Sarah Wagenknecht (Left) – politician
- Claus Ruhe Madsen (independent) – Politician
- Kristina Dunz – journalist
When Madsen criticizes political communication from Berlin, he not only opens the door to host Lanz. Although Strack-Zimmermann is still trying to clarify that “there was a worm in there from the start”, but talk show host Lanz got angry. He laments the lack of “leadership from the front” and clear statements from the government, but Strack-Zimmermann evades. No one could have known what the corona pandemic * would bring to politics and society and only those who believe they have a solution to the problem in their hands can lead from the start.
Host Lanz does not agree with this, and journalist Kristina Dunz also offers defence. “I knew why I was sitting here,” jokes Strack-Zimmermann, pointing to her seat, “there’s always a barbecue here.” Moderator Lanz can’t help but laugh and Madsen a comment: “It’s nice that there are barbecues again. Just not so nice when you’re being grilled.”
Vaccination obligation discussion at “Markus Lanz”: The matter of feasibility
The debate on compulsory vaccination is getting heated. Wagenknecht points out that Omikron is a “changed starting position”. There are hardly any severe courses that lead to an overload of the health system and thus justify encroachments on fundamental rights. It is “unfair” to promise the population that “you’re done with the third vaccination,” says Wagenknecht, referring to Israeli studies that also attest the booster’s dwindling effect. Strack-Zimmermann counters: “But that’s why there are many people who are in favor of compulsory vaccination. To work that out. Because it is indeed not an easy question.”
Last week, politician Boris Palmer (Greens) made it “simple” as a guest on “Markus Lanz”. In the broadcast on January 25, he suggested writing to all people registered in a municipality in the event that vaccination was compulsory and asking them to provide proof of vaccination within four weeks. Otherwise, similar to traffic offenses, fine proceedings would be initiated.
“He’s right,” Strack-Zimmermann thinks, but at the end of the Corona discussion it’s Madsen who gets excited: “If it were that easy, why isn’t it digital? How do we determine the whole thing?” “The federal government then has to tell me what happens to someone who is not vaccinated. I like to do that. But please tell me: What are the consequences? How are we supposed to handle that? Please don’t leave that to a few city officials.”
Ukraine conflict with “Markus Lanz”: Sahra Wagenknecht understands Vladimir Putin
The fact that Wagenknecht took the side of Russia in the final Ukraine debate made Strack-Zimmermann frown. NATO has upgraded massively in recent years and is advancing further and further east, which is why Russia rightly feels threatened, the left thinks. Strack-Zimmermann, on the other hand, insists on the sovereignty of states when choosing their allies*. But Wagenknecht does not back down: “Russian history obliges us, as Germans, to play a really de-escalating role here.”
Actually, Wagenknecht explains, Russia just wants “back to the discussion table”, but Strack-Zimmermann counters and says that Putin wants to use foreign policy to distract from domestic failures. It is no coincidence that the alliance-neutral countries Finland and Sweden are debating whether to join NATO after all. Her conclusion: “With this appearance, Putin achieves exactly the opposite.”
“Markus Lanz” – The conclusion of the show
After “Markus Lanz” took a break from the Corona virus for three programs and gave priority to other topics, the focus was again on the pandemic on Thursday evening. The politician Sahra Wagenknecht (left) polarized with her statements about the corona vaccination during the broadcast on the Internet: While some viewers celebrate her on Twitter for her critical attitude, others attest to her “swearing”. There is more consensus among the audience with regard to Rostock’s Lord Mayor Claus Ruhe Madsen (independent), who is very popular as a local politician for his committed nature and helpless situation. (Hermann Racke)